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[Weird] Raid on Cult of Gor

Police raid science-fiction sex cult, as reported in the Telegraph. Apparently there's a cult based on the Gor books (which I must admit I've neither read nor possess much desire to), and this is a splinter faction of the Gorean cult/religion called the Kaotians.

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My anecdote pales in comparison, but ...

Twice I have encountered couples looking at the Gor books in Waldenbooks. In each case, it was the young woman browsing the books before saying with a quiver (a verbatim quote in one case), "Ooh, we haven't read this one yet."

I read twelve pages of a Gor novel once. That was my limit.
I read a whole one, on the premise that I should investigate for myself. It was every bit as awful as I've heard, sufficiently so that I cringed when hearing the book's author described as "an American philosophy academic". I want to smack Norman with my philosophy degree now.

I'm sure some people, men and women, find it sexy. My base objection is the fantasyland of "in Gor, all women are like this". Ew.
It's really just a kind of lame cross between Trekkies and D/S. People get their kicks where the will, and I'd hardly call it a 'sex cult'. The girl was there of her own free will but had been a complete idiot and burned her passport, and wanted to go home. So the police helped her out with that. They weren't breaking any laws.

Mind you, I still think it's dumb as hell, but I think that about a lot of people.

Actually, there're quite a few Goreans in Second Life. They bought an island or two and run about. Keep to themselves for the most part.
There are times when 'consent' and 'free will' can become dubious issues.
Wow I had no idea I was running a sex cult, no wonder I'm tired all the time.
(Reposted from Hero Games forums, not my creation, I just like it. Link to post, but requires login to view.)

For those of you who haven't read Gor, here's something that will probably give you a good idea of what the series is like:

A Parody by Ellerol

The spider plant cringed as its owner brought forth the watering can. "I am a spider plant!" it cried indignantly. "How dare you water me before my time! Guards!" it called. "Guards!"

Borin, its owner, placed the watering can on the table and looked at it. "You will be watered," he said.

"You do not dare to water me!" laughed the plant.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

"Do not water me!" wept the plant.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

I watched this exchange. Truly, I believed the plant would be watered. It was plant, and on Gor it had no rights. Perhaps on Earth, in its permissive society, which distorts the true roles of all beings, which forces both plant and waterer to go unhappy and constrained, which forbids the fulfillment of owner and houseplant, such might not happen. Perhaps there, it would not be watered. But it was on Gor now, and would undoubtedly feel its true place, that of houseplant. It was plant. It would be watered at will. Such is the way with plants.

Borin picked up the watering can, and muchly watered the plant. The plant cried out. "No, Master! Do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. "Please, Master," begged the plant, "do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. It was plant. It could be watered at will.

The plant sobbed muchly as Borin laid down the watering can. It was not pleased. Too, it was wet. But this did not matter. It was plant.

"You have been well watered," said Borin.

"Yes," said the plant, "I have been well watered." Of course, it could be watered by its master at will.

"I have watered you well," said Borin.

"Yes, master," said the plant. "You have watered your plant well. I am plant, and as such I should be watered by my master."

The cactus plant next to the spider plant shuddered. It attempted to cover its small form with its small arms and small needles. "I am plant," it said wonderingly. "I am of Earth, but for the first time, I feel myself truly plantlike. On Earth, I was able to control my watering. I often scorned those who would water me. But they were weak, and did not see my scorn for what it was, the weak attempt of a small plant to protect itself. Not one of the weak Earth waterers would dare to water a plant if it did not wish it. But on Gor," it shuddered, "on Gor it is different. Here, those who wish to water will water their plants as they wish. But strangely, I feel myself most plantlike when I am at the mercy of a strong Gorean master, who may water me as he pleases."

"I will now water you," said Borin, the cactus's Gorean master.

The cactus did not resist being watered. Perhaps it was realizing that such watering was its master's to control. Too, perhaps it knew that this master was far superior to those of Earth, who would not water it if it did not wish to be watered.

The cactus's watering had been finished. The spider plant looked at it.

"I have been well watered," it said.

"I, too, have been well watered," said the cactus.

"My master has watered me well," said the spider plant.

"My master, too, has watered me well," said the cactus.

"I am to be placed in a hanging basket on the porch," said the spider plant.

"I, too, am to be placed in a hanging basket on the porch," said the cactus.

"I wish you well," said the spider plant.

"I, too, wish you well," said the cactus.

"Tal," said the spider plant.

"Tal, too," said the cactus.

I did not think that the spider plant would object to being watered by its master again. For it realized that it was plant, and that here, unlike on Earth, it was likely to be owned and watered by many masters.
*snickers helplessly*

Yeah, that's them. Idiots at large.

The furries are so much better company.
Damn! Someone beat me to posting HOUSEPLANTS OF GOR. That didn't come off the game forum; it's been kicking around for years. I read a quarter of a Gor book once, and gave up. I've always been mildly amused that there's a cult for the silly books.

I should point out, Rachel, that posting about Gor is not something you should do with a mood of "sore." Although your recent relationship with Roman does have a Gor-y tinge...

I'm just saying! :)
I had a friend who had the whole collection of Gor books. I don't talk to him much anymore, and the last time I heard anything about him he and his girlfriend had a 'whipping tent' at an SCA event.

I've never read a Gor book, and I don't think I'd be keen to do so.
*misses your posts*
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